m-ITX Server (Celeron 857 vs Atom D2700 vs Atom D525)

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m-ITX Server (Celeron 857 vs Atom D2700 vs Atom D525)

Hej!

Skall nu bygga en m-ITX server, som kommer ha hand om nätverk samt en VPN server. (Troligen PFsense, eller annan linux-dist).

Problemet är nu att jag vill ha den kraftfullaste m-ITX för ~1200kr max (kan gå högre om det ger mycket bättre prestanda/krona). Då känns det som det är bäst med ett kort med integrerad CPU.

Kraven är:
m-ITX Formfaktor
PCI-e, alt mini-PCI-e (För NIC's)
Snabbast CPU, gärna flerkärning?
DDR3 Ram

Så, frågan står vilket m-ITX moderkort med integrerad CPU ger mest CPU-kraft för pengarna?

Tack på förhand!

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Jag kör pfSense på en

Intel Desktop Board D2500CC <- Runt 700:-
2x SATA300
2x Intel Gbit NIC
4x USB
1x pci
1x pcie

Intel Atom D2500 / 1.86 GHz ( Dubbelkärnig ) (passivt kyld, ingen fläkt)
4GB 2x2GB SO-DIMM DDR3 1066MHz ram

I ett sånt här chassi:

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Jag kör pfSense på en

Intel Desktop Board D2500CC <- Runt 700:-
2x SATA300
2x Intel Gbit NIC
4x USB
1x pci
1x pcie

Intel Atom D2500 / 1.86 GHz ( Dubbelkärnig ) (passivt kyld, ingen fläkt)
4GB 2x2GB SO-DIMM DDR3 1066MHz ram

I ett sånt här chassi:

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Duger den bra? Den har mini-PCIe va?
Vart hittar jag det där chassit? riktigt sexigt.

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Tackar. Vilken CPU är att rekommendera då? Är det bättre att satsa på ett mITX utan integrerad cpu? typ FM2 eller 1155?

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Av dem du har skrivit i rubriken, så är Celeron processorn den som är snabbast, enligt PassMark: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/
Sen om det är värt att skaffa separat processor så får du jämföra priset och prestandan.

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Har du tittat på kikat på hardware requirements för pfsense? Alltid denna overkill på hårdvara.

http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Hardware_requirements
Hardware Architectures

pfSense is supported only on the x86 architecture. The types of devices supported range from standard PCs to a variety of embedded devices. It is targeted at x86-based PCs 300 MHz or faster.
Minimum Hardware Requirements

We suggest at least a Pentium II processor with at least 128 MB RAM. You may be able to get by with less than that, but with less memory you may start swapping to disk, which will dramatically slow down your system.
Recommended System BIOS Changes

There are some BIOS settings that may need to be changed for pfSense to function properly.
Plug and Play OS

Most system BIOS have a setting for "Plug and Play OS" or something similar. This should always be set to "no" or "disable". With this setting turned off, the BIOS assigns system resources rather than leaving that up to the OS. FreeBSD (and hence pfsense) works best when the BIOS handles this task.
Disabling Unnecessary Devices

You most likely won't have to worry about this, but if you have hardware-related issues, we recommend disabling all unnecessary devices in the BIOS, such as onboard sound, and in some cases parallel ports, serial ports, and other unused devices. If you aren't using it, it is safe to disable it.
Hardware Sizing

Determining the exact hardware sizing for your pfSense deployment can be difficult at best, because network environments differ dramatically. The following will provide some base guidelines on choosing what hardware is sufficient for your installation. Stated throughput numbers are very conservative for most environments, leaving some room for error and future expandability.
Network Card Selection

We will address this first, because your selection of network cards (NICs) is the single most important performance factor in your setup. Cheap NICs will keep your CPU very busy with interrupt handling, causing your CPU to be the bottleneck in your configuration. A quality NIC can increase your maximum throughput as much as two to three fold, if not more.

FreeBSD refers to network cards by their driver name followed by the interface number. For example, if you have two Intel Pro/100 cards (fxp driver) and one 3Com 3C905 card (xl driver), you will have interfaces fxp0, fxp1, and xl0 respectively. Intel Pro/100 and Pro/1000 cards tend to be the best performing and most reliable on pfsense. Cheap cards like those containing Realtek chipsets (FreeBSD rl driver) are very poor performers in comparison.

If you are purchasing NICs for your pfsense installation, we strongly recommend purchasing Intel cards. You can find them on ebay for less than $30 USD for 3-5 cards in a bulk lot. For low throughput environments, like any typical broadband connection 6 Mbps or less, any NIC will suffice unless you are seriously lacking CPU. If you require fast throughput (more than 30-40 Mbps) between interfaces for multiple LAN networks, or between a DMZ and your LAN, then using quality NIC's becomes much more important.

The numbers stated in the following sections can be increased slightly for quality NICs, and decreased (possibly substantially) with low quality NICs. All of the following numbers also assume no packages are installed. Some packages can increase the system requirements, and some can increase them substantially.
6-8Mbps (Residential / SOHO)

With the typical residential or small office broadband connection of up to 6-8 Mbps, a 200 MHz system with 128 MB RAM will suffice. Remember if you want to use your pfSense installation to protect your wireless network, or segment multiple LAN segments, throughput between interfaces must be taken into account.
20-50 Mb Throughput

To achieve 20-50 Mb throughput, you generally need a system between 400-600 MHz.
100 Mb Wire Speed

In order to achieve 100 Mb wire speed throughput, you typically need a system between 700 MHz and 1 GHz.
High Throughput Environments

In environments where extremely high throughput through several interfaces is required, especially with gigabit interfaces, PCI bus speed must be taken into account. When using multiple interfaces in the same system, the bandwidth of the PCI bus can easily become a bottleneck. Most typical motherboards only have one or two PCI buses, and each can run an absolute maximum of 133 MBps, or 1064 Mbps. That's less than one gigabit interface can transfer. PCI-X can transfer up to 1056 MBps, or about 8.25 Gbps.

If you need sustained gigabit throughput at wire speed, you will want a server-class motherboard with PCI-X slots and PCI-X NIC's. You'll also need a 2.8+ GHz CPU.

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Har du tittat på kikat på hardware requirements för pfsense? Alltid denna overkill på hårdvara.

http://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Hardware_requirements
If you need sustained gigabit throughput at wire speed, you will want a server-class motherboard with PCI-X slots and PCI-X NIC's. You'll also need a 2.8+ GHz CPU.

Just där, kommer ju köra 4st NIC's och jag vill ha Gbit troughput..

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Just där, kommer ju köra 4st NIC's och jag vill ha Gbit troughput..

Nu blir jag nyfiken på hur du tänkt att använda maskinen. Kan du inte berätta lite mer hur den ska användas.Hurd de olika NIC:arna ska konfigureras etc.

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Nu blir jag nyfiken på hur du tänkt att använda maskinen. Kan du inte berätta lite mer hur den ska användas.Hurd de olika NIC:arna ska konfigureras etc.

Kommer vara på skolan för VPN in och ut Samt för backup av filer för vårt skolprojekt,

NiC1: Input skolans nätverk 1
NiC2: Output skolans nät 1
NiC3: --->--- nät 2
NiC4: ---<--- nät 2

För backupen kommer jag antingen köra E-Sata eller USB3.0

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Duger den bra? Den har mini-PCIe va?
Vart hittar jag det där chassit? riktigt sexigt.

Deltaco köpte jag chassit från.

Den har mini pci/e

Den fungerar grymt bra.
Den kör min Gbit fiber lina utan problem.
Mailtvättar inkommande mail för 5 domäner. Runt 100 mail om dagen.
Samt kör VPN tunnel.

Använder 5-10% CPU, kan ta lite sceeenshots på stats om de är av intresse