AMD döper om Radeon HD 7000 till HD 8000 för OEM

Radeon HD 5770 "rebrandades" inte i mitten utav sin livslängd. Radeon HD 5770 omlanserades som Radeon HD 6770 i Maj 2011, vilket är ca. ett och ett halvt år efter lanseringen Oktober 2009. Här är AMD:s roadmap för grafikkortet:

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Om grafikkorten någonsin såldes under samma period beror det på kvarliggande lager. Radeon HD 6770 var tänkt att ersätta Radeon HD 5770.

We haven’t talked about it beyond a passing comment, but AMD still has some Radeon 6000 series cards that are OEM-only. We are of course referring to the Radeon HD 6770 and Radeon HD 6750, AMD’s Juniper-powered 5770 & 5750 rebadges for OEMs. While we’ve only recently seen the rest of the Northern Islands lineup launch in the retail space, in the OEM space the last-generation Juniper GPU has been filling out AMD’s lineup between Turks (6500/6600) and Barts (6800) based video cards.

The rationale for OEM space is rather straightforward: OEMs want/need something new to sell. More RAM, a Sandy Bridge CPU, a SSD – their 2011 computers need to look better than their 2010 computers, as they certainly don’t want to be seen as selling last year’s model for anything less than a steep discount. It was perhaps a foolish hope that these shenanigans would remain in the OEM market, as so far AMD has continued to keep the 5770 and 5750 even after the rest of Northern Islands has launched. But here we are, out with the old and in with the old: the 5770 and 5750 are getting rebadged in retail. Say hello to the Radeon HD 6770 and Radeon HD 6750.

There’s really no way to sugarcoat it, and even AMD isn’t really trying. It’s the same Juniper GPU on the same boards with the same clocks, the same power requirements, and the same performance. The only thing different between a 5700 series card and its 6700 series counterpart is the sticker on the card, the BIOS, and quite possibly the price.

Ultimately our biggest concern at this point is pricing. AMD tells us that 6700 series pricing will be consistent with 5700 series pricing, but we have our doubts. 5770 has actually been really good – it regularly goes on sale for as low as $95, so if you don’t mind a MIR and the choice of only a couple of vendors, you’ve been able to grab a 5770 for under $100. This is cheaper than the 5750 most of the time, never mind what it does to the 6670 and NVIDIA’s lineup. What is NVIDIA’s lineup? The slightly faster GTX 550 Ti at $125+, and the 5750-like GTS 450 at $90+. Compared to everything AMD and NVIDIA, the 5770 is a very good deal; and this is why we’re concerned about the pricing.

Radeon HD 5700 Series Price History
Launch Today Difference
Radeon HD 5770 $160 Approx $110 -$50
Radeon HD 5750 $130 Approx $110 -$20

We hope to be proven wrong here, but at this point in time there’s little reason for AMD and their partners to sell $100 5770s when there’s no competitive pressure to do so. A good bargain is another name for a product bringing in less profit than it should, and in the cut-throat semiconductor industry you usually need to grab what you can when you can. The concern we have is that it’s as good a time as any to realign 5770 prices with the competitive market and AMD’s product stack – it’s time for a price hike. There is no doubt in my mind that the first 6700 cards will cost more than the cheapest 5700 cards. The only question is whether prices will come back down once stores are fully stocked with 6700 cards as they are today with 5700 cards.

At the end of the day this rebadging seems to only benefit AMD and their partners, to the detriment of buyers. In a weird twist it’s a bit better than how they handled the 6800 series – at least the 6700 series isn’t slower than the 5700 series – but that’s not saying much. Besides the backported MVC/HDMI 1.4a features, the 6700 series lacks everything else that made the rest of the 6000 series an improvement over the 5000 series. There’s no DisplayPort 1.2, no MPEG-2 or MPEG-4 ASP decoding, no color correction, no improved tessellator, and no linear space color correction. With the exception of perhaps DP1.2 they’re not headlining features, but they’re glaring inconsistencies.

When NVIDIA played the rebadge game with G92 it didn’t help consumers then, and with AMD doing it today, it doesn’t help consumers now. Actually, G92 ultimately got a die shrink from 65nm to 55nm and various clockspeed bumps, so unless AMD makes a 28nm Juniper core this may end up being a worse deal.

It’s perhaps with a twinge of sadness to see this happening to Juniper. Juniper above all other AMD GPUs has been AMD’s workhorse. It was the GPUs game developers first saw in the summer of 2009 when AMD sampled their first DX11 parts, and we’re now coming up on 2 years later where it’s still selling strong. We’re glad to see it live on – it’s a great card and continues to be so at $99, but the rebadging adds a permanent tarnish to the reputation; an air of taking advantage of uninformed buyers that it will never escape. This would seem to be the fate of any GPU fortunate to live long enough to cross multiple generations: if you aren’t replaced, you’re renamed.

There’s really no way to sugarcoat it, and even AMD isn’t really trying. It’s the same Juniper GPU on the same boards with the same clocks, the same power requirements, and the same performance. The only thing different between a 5700 series card and its 6700 series counterpart is the sticker on the card, the BIOS, and quite possibly the price.

Today AMD will be launching two cards based on the Cape Verde GPU: the Radeon HD 7750, and the Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition. As the Juniper based 5700 series never got a proper Northern Islands successor, this is the first real update for the x700 series since the launch of the 5700 series in October of 2009. Given the success of the 5700 expectations are going to be high, and to fulfill those expectations AMD will be bringing to bear their new GCN architecture along with a full node jump with TSMC’s 28nm process. But will this be enough to enable the 7700 series to replicate the success of the 5700 series? Let’s find out.

Re-brandning är ingenting ovanligt, nVidia och AMD (ATI) har gjort det på enstaka kort, speciellt på budgetsidan. Men det här en ny nivå av svineri som aldrig har skådats på marknaden. Re-brendning av hela serien från topp till botten.

Det skulle vara intressant att få reda på varför tillverkarna beslutar sig för att den enda nyheten i den kommande produkten är att den har bytt namn?
(Måla om Volvo 740 och sälj den som V70...)
Särskilt intressesant för grafikkort, då konsumenter som köper dem oftast är lite insatta.

Tror de att konsumenterna överger dem om de inte släpper något "nytt" varje år?

Hoppas nu att båda lagen lägger ner extra mycket arbete i att få drivrutinerna att fungera både effektivt och stabilt!

Det skulle vara intressant att få reda på varför tillverkarna beslutar sig för att den enda nyheten i den kommande produkten är att den har bytt namn?
(Måla om Volvo 740 och sälj den som V70...)
Särskilt intressesant för grafikkort, då konsumenter som köper dem oftast är lite insatta.

Tror de att konsumenterna överger dem om de inte släpper något "nytt" varje år?

Hoppas nu att båda lagen lägger ner extra mycket arbete i att få drivrutinerna att fungera både effektivt och stabilt!

Att det är bara OEM gör det inte mindre svinigt av AMD. En usel ursäkt.
Sedan har det aldrigt gjort en re-branding från budget till high-end av en hela serie.

Med viss reservation för att 8000-serien var två GPU-serier (G80 och G92) och enbart G92 blev 9000-serien (och det väldigt kort efter att G92 faktiskt släpptes) så är det helt rätt.

Det gör det däremot inte mindre fel.