P4 prissänks

åhh fan de var ju bra

"Veckans erbjudande - Intel Pentium 4 2,53GHz 2650kr"

Fiiint då blir det en 3.06 snart då

Aight way to go! Woot!

Låter spännande.

går åt rätt håll

Men jag tror jag lästa på idg att de skulle sänka en gång till i slutet av mars.
Jag tror prissäkningen blir minst lika stor som den nu.

/hugo

Spännande

ohhh! en 2.6 för 2000! det blir ett inköp det

Känns nästan ledsamt att säga att Intel nog kommer dra ifrån, Hammer skulle gjort bra ifrån sig i oktober. Med dessa förseningar så kommer den nog inte bli något speciellt.

Men men, bandbredd är inte allt. Det är det Intel lever på. Får trösta mig med det.

Tur att man tänkt uppgradera när prissänkningarna kommer! Ska bli en fin och billig P4 2.4 som ska överklockas, mums.

Det verkar som Intel kommer med sin Prescott före Athlon 64.
Det blir att köpa en Prescott när den kommer och överklocka till 5-6Ghz.

Intel is Already Sampling Prescott Processors! 3.80GHz CPUs by Year End.

We managed to dig that Intel is already sampling its Prescott processor these days. The chips are not yet final, but in the second quarter Intel will already start to send its new 90nm CPUs to the partners. Since the chips that are sent to design partners should be made on more or less mature fabrication process, the information fully corresponds to the fact that the 90nm manufacturing technology is to be finalised by the middle of the year (see this news-story).

Nästa prissänkning sker i April:

3.20 GHz 800 FSB, $637
3.06 GHz 800 FSB, $417
3.06 GHz 533 FSB, $401
2.80 GHz 800 FSB, $278
2.80 GHz 533 FSB, $262
2.66 GHz 800 FSB, $218
2.66 GHz 533 FSB, $193

P4 3,4Ghz kommer i juni enligt:
http://www.geek.com/procspec/intel/northwood.htm

IBM anser att AMDs dagar är räknade:
"An IBM executive has subtly implied that AMD might be gone within the next 5 years. In an interview with Fortune, IBM senior Vice President Bill Zeitler stated his belief that within 5 years only IBM and Intel would have 64-bit chips."

Men ibm kan suga kuk! En av anledningarna till prissänkningarna är att amd släpper sin barton processor imån.

Intel lägger ner sin tillverkning av Pentium 4 som är långsammare är 2,8Ghz 800Fsb 1 jan 2004 enligt:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/story.html?id=1038524315

Nu blir man ju nästan ledsen. Visst är det här jävligt bra processorer med bra pris, men att AMD inte håller måttet längre känns förjävligt. Utan dom kan ju Intel dra upp sina priser precis så högt de vill, en processor måste man ju ha ändå.

Vilken tur att jag inte jag inte skickade min beställning som jag tänkt i fredags.... Det blir till att vänta 2 veckor.

Hur länge brukar det dröja innan prissänkningarna slår igen i Sverige ??
Samma dag ??

Barton

http://www.anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=1783&p=1

http://firingsquad.gamers.com/hardware/amd_athlon_xp_3000_rev...

AMD's first CPU of the year and it's still not the elusive Hammer, but as the benchmarks show, it doesn't need to be. In many cases the Athlon XP 3000+ can outperform the 3.06GHz Pentium 4, while in others it manages to tie with Intel's flagship and yet in others it falls behind just as much. The overall performance is close enough to warrant the 3000+ rating but there's no question that it is a very close call between the two top performing CPUs. Looking at the CPU scaling charts alone you can get an idea for how competitive the two CPU families have become, as the Pentium 4 improved in performance and the Athlon XP continued to mature.

It is very interesting to note the relatively small performance improvement that resulted from the additional L2 cache, at least when you compare the impact of Barton to the impact Northwood had on the Pentium 4. We have to wonder if the added L2 cache and its accompanying 17 million transistors is worth it for the Athlon XP at this point; but with increasing clock speed becoming quite difficult without SOI or 90nm and no desire to add any additional functionality to the K7 architecture with Hammer just around the corner, those 17 million transistors may have been the simplest ticket to improving performance (as strange as that may sound).

With Barton launched, the focus once again shifts to Athlon 64 but we have a feeling it will be a very close battle throughout 2003 for AMD and Intel. The Athlon 64 may unequivocally tilt the balance in favor of AMD, but then there's Prescott to worry about. If the 512KB improvement numbers were any indication, moving to a full 1MB L2 cache in Prescott, combined with a larger L1 cache and improved Hyper-Threading could make for a powerful competitor. Between now and then, AMD will have to contend with not higher clock speeds, but much higher performing platforms as Intel readies their line of Springdale and Canterwood 800MHz FSB chipsets for launch in the second quarter.

Barton will keep AMD in the game, but Hammer is still quite necessary...

Kan inte göra något än att hålla med....anandtech.com

Hur kommer det sig att man alltid precis har köpt en ny CPU när de vecka efter bestämmer sig för att sänka priserna?! GNUUUU! Aldrig får man vara riktigt nöjd.

Intel > AMD :]

Om man önskar köpa en 3 Ghzare, är det bara att förvänta sig att moderkortet kan hantera den? Visserligen kör jag en 2.2 ghz 533 mhz nu, men har för mig att det står nånstans att moderkortet stödjer hastigheter ända upp till 2 ghz... Är detta bara något gammalt att glömma?

du kan med säkerhet köra varenda p4 så länge det är socket 478

edit: alla socket478 mobon stöder dock inte HyperThreading, men många gör det med en biosuppdatering.

hoho ska ju köpa ny dator i slutet av mars, fast kanske väntar till april beroende på när de sänks, vill ju ändå ha nya datorn i år

Men 3066 stödjer ju bara HTT men varför ska 2.8 ligga så högt,,, om nån köper intel i dag är det ju 3.06 eller kommande 3,2 / 3,4 som gäller...

AMD trodde att de kunde skaka fram lite snabbare CPUer med Barton.
Men i 10 av 18 test hos THG så är en gammal XP2800 snabbare än XP3000 Barton, pinsamt.
Citat från olika Barton tester:
THG
" Even in comparison to the "old" Athlon XP 2800+, based on the T-Bred core, the new high-end processor is often left in the dust (10 out of 18 tests)"
"After running extensive tests on the Barton, we have come to the conclusion that it is time for the Athlon 64 with the Hammer core. With all due respect for its accomplishments, the Athlon XP is ready for retirement."

Hardocp
"What did stand out was where the TBred 2800+ bested our Barton 3000+ by small margins in a couple of the benchmarks"

Xbitlabs
"Unfortunately, Athlon XP 3000+ on Barton core doesn't support higher clock frequency than Athlon XP 2700+ on Thoroughbred core. As a result, Athlon XP 3000+ very often appears just a little faster than Athlon XP 2700+. Moreover, in quite a bit of tests Athlon XP 2700+ performs better than Athlon XP 2800+ on Barton core. We suppose that this reshuffle may discredit the rating system used by AMD to mark its processors.

As for the rivalry between the top Athlon XP and top Pentium 4 models, the situation is not that favorable for AMD here as well. Bigger L2 cache doesn't allow Athlon XP to improve its performance significantly. This leads to even fewer applications where Athlon XP manages to defeat Intel Pentium 4 processors."
"Hyper-Threading technology implemented in Pentium 4 processors proved highly efficient and improved the performance of Pentium 4 CPUs quite a lot. The announcement of the new Barton core can hardly be called an adequate response to Hyper-Threading.

However, the harder times for AMD are still ahead. In the end of April Intel Company will announce Pentium 4 3.2GHz with 800MHz processor bus and Hyper-Threading technology. The only thing AMD can actually respond with will be the launching of their new Athlon XP 3200+ based on Barton core. But, we really doubt that it will manage to withstand the new powerful rival.

So, we have to admit that it looks as if the situation in the high-end desktop processor market promises to be not in AMD's favor until their so long-awaited Athlon 64 is out."

Tur att inte alla har den åsikten..

http://firingsquad.gamers.com/hardware/amd_athlon_xp_3000_rev...