playstation 4 - xbox 720, när ?

har hört rykten om att ps4 kan komma ut redan 2010, vet inte hur mkt av det som sägs är sant, men vad tror ni?

När kommer ps4 eller xbox 720 ut ?

Skulle va fett som fan med ps4 men blir nog förbannat dyrt bara .. iaf i början !

jag tror faktiskt det kan bli aktuellt vid början eller mitten av 2011, eller i början av 2012..

det är vad jag tippar på, men vem vet.. den som lever får se

Rumor has it that Microsoft is already readying its successor to Xbox360. Desperate to maintain their new found hold on the serious (or not including the Wii) market Microsoft are likely to come out all guns blazing with the consoles next incarnation. In response it is almost certain Sony are working on a Playstation4. So, with this in mind what kind of shape will Sony's next entry into the lucrative console market take?

All singing, all dancing digital hub, or all out gaming device?
This is perhaps the biggest problem facing Sony. Do they follow their classic 'trojan horse' approach and bundle the console with technology they want to push. For example PS2 came with DVD and ultimately launched the format into the mainstream, and PS3 came with Blu-ray and this no doubt proved influential in the eventual fall of HD-DVD. However, Sony's success with this all singing, all dancing approach has been somewhat mixed. Most people who own a PS3, own it just for the games, and many resent paying so much more for a digital hub device they are unlikely to take full advantage of. With DVRs, AppleTV's, and Media centric PCs all vying to take the crown of your homes 'digital hub', just how much space is there under your TV for another competitor? The success of the Wii my provide some evidence that it's better (and far cheaper) to have one device that does one thing really well, rather than a jack of all trades. However with the amount of music and movie content in the Sony library, and the fact that no one company has yet got the concept of a living room digital hub quite right, you can bet Sony will take this approach again.

Will it come with Blu-ray?
For this author Blu-ray will always be a stop gap technology between DVD and internet downloads. Before the format has even really got off the ground HD quality movies are already available to download from the likes of Apple and Microsoft. Whilst the PS3 has undoubtably helped Blu-ray win the physical format war, it has meant the demise of the PS3 in the console war. The technology has just proved to be too expensive to enable Sony to compete against its rivals. Sony will not want to make the same mistake again. If Sony see the light and understand that the future of content distribution is downloads rather than discs then they would be wise, in a move not too dissimilar from Apple's bold decision to scrap the floppy disc drive in the original imac, to omit an optical drive altogether.

DVR out of the box?
Again DVR, seems like a sort of stop gap idea between linear broadcast television and a truely on-demand service. For this writer (and I know many people will not agree with this) the future can be seen in BBC's iPlayer and Apple's, albeit confusingly named, iTunes store. As broadband speeds increase content can be streamed and downloaded over the net on demand. Even news and sport can be broadcast live at at least full SD quality over the net. Full HD quality streaming can't be far off. It is for this reason I think the notion of broadcast TV is going to be a thing of the path. Sony's aim should surely be to position it's next console as the deliverer of such online content, rather than a souped up DVR.

The Specs
So, after boldly proclaiming that the PS4 should have no optical drive or DVR functionality what can we expect to see?

- Faster wireless. 80.211n at the very least.
- Souped up Cell Processor(s). With IBM already using much faster versions of the Cell in their Blade servers it seems keeping the Cell is by far the best option. Not only will it mean easy backward compatibility, but it will also mean developers can forgo the usual harsh learning curve of learning yet another new architecture.
- The state of the art graphics chip from Ati or Nvidia.
- An enormous hard drive. 1TB or larger is not out of the question. Especially if the optical disc drive is absent.
- The same shape controller. Why mess with perfection?

detta är vad jag har hittat om ps4..

ja det är mkt möjligt, men ändå riktigt fett ! jag tycker ps3 är riktigt fett, kan ju bara tänka ps4 ..

ja det har börjat gå bra eftersom dom har gått ner i pris ja !

För när deras ps 3 kom ut o nått år efter så låg dom typ på 5 - 6 tusen.

Men nu ligger dom på ca 3000 kr..

Och dom har börjat gå ner i pris, eftersom dom har nått på gång,.. så gjorde dom ju med ps2 .. dom gick ner rätt ordentligt i pris med ps2 och sen 1 år senare kom ps3 ut ..

Känner jag dom rätt, så kommer ps4 ut nån gång 2010 - 2011 max till 2012..

men mer än så lär det inte dröja !

Det är vad jag tror iaf