Star Wars: The Old Republic

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Just like the last time they released something questionable, bioware is up to defend their decisions that made people bitch about this game.
"It's been a little bit of an unfair characterisation," SWTOR game director James Ohlen remarked to Eurogamer. "Because if you look at other game genres, if you look at a Battlefield or a Call of Duty or a Gears of War or even a Half-Life - those games use the same tried and true interface and the same tried and true game mechanics of the first-person shooter genre that's been around for 20 years.

"If you look at real-time strategy games, they kept the same tried and true interface and the same tried and true mechanics that existed for 20 years. Same with adventure games, same with platformers, same with fighting games, sports games.

"I don't know why the MMORPG genre is not considered to be a genre," Ohlen shrugged. "It could be that World of Warcraft has dominated for so long that people just think of it as just a single game genre.

"But it is a genre, and we wanted to appeal to fans of that genre - we don't want to turn them away by making something that's radically different. And we wanted to take the lessons that have been developed in that genre over years and years and years and basically refine them, much like other companies do with other genres.

"So, I don't know, it's just the way it is, but I don't see us as not being innovative. We're actually a lot more innovative within the MMO space than comparable games in other spaces like the first-person genre, the action genre - games like that."

Ohlen said the reception to Star Wars: The Old Republic, which touched down in December, had been "a little bit better" in the US than in Europe. "Star Wars [the brand] is a little bit stronger in North America than in Europe," Ohlen informed us.

Eurogamer awarded Star Wars: The Old Republic 8/10.

"We're very happy in the review scores; we've been getting basically 90s and 80s - the lowest score we have is an 80, on average we have a 90. It's been coming in about where we expected," Ohlen said.

"The expectations on what the game was going to be for a lot of people was kind of different to what we were building. We were building essentially a classic MMO with BioWare storytelling set in the Star Wars universe. And there were a lot of people out there who wanted us to reinvent the universe and come up with a game system that had never been done before. And that was something we weren't doing, so it was going to be disappointing for those people.

"We did succeed in creating a game that's very fun and addictive, and I think that's what's going to make this successful.

"The people who are playing the game, the reception we're getting right now - the desire to resubscribe is exceptionally high, higher than we thought it would be. We thought it was going to be high, but it's very very good. So we're quite pleased."

Was BioWare expecting 10/10s?
"I don't know. The thing about a massively-multiplayer game is even World of Warcraft doesn't get 10s hardly at all," Ohlen replied, evidently not referring to Eurogamer's WOW coverage.

"The thing about an online game is it's made up of so many systems, it's a combination of so many different gameplay mechanics, unlike a single-player game that can be very, very focused in the experience.

"It's different in an MMO where there's hundreds of hours of play, and I think that plays against getting tons of reviews that are 10s. But still we have got some 95s, we have got some perfect scores, some 5/5s. We have got them, it's just that it's not all over the place like you may see with Mass Effect 2."

Ohlen was lead designer on Dragon Age, Knights of the Old Republic and Baldur's Gate, so is used to high Metacritic averages. He's hoping SWTOR's average may creep up as more reviews tumble in.

The user rating of Star Wars: The Old Republic on Metacritic is lower, however - but Ohlen was quick to explain why he thinks that is.

"Oh that's easy," he retorted. "Several of the designers were watching the Metacritic page when it finally came up and what happened was there is a community out there, and we don't know who they are - it could be a bunch of different people - who aren't really playing the game but have a vested interest in hating the game. And we saw literally hundreds of 0/10s come up within the first couple of hours of Metacritic coming on. So it was people who weren't even playing the game basically putting on that they hated it.

"There's nothing we can do about that, right?" Ohlen added."We're a big target, we're a huge game, we have a lot of hype - we've been building up the hype for years. It's just kind of expected.

"We knew that there was going to be people who wanted us to fail. But that's just the nature of the game. If you're going to build a huge game and try to go out to a lot of people, you're going to have people who just react poorly."
Star Wars: The Old Republic is apparently the fastest ever growing subscription MMO, and had 1 million registered users after one week.

"I can't say specific numbers," Ohlen explained, "but we hit a million almost immediately and we've been growing since then. We've sold out in a lot of stores. We've obviously been having to put more copies into the channel.

"I'd say we're still rocketing right now. Every day the numbers continue to grow - we have more people going into the game."

Du menar att spelet inte är en succé?

För det är precis det dem säger i den artikeln...

Det går väl bra för både Aion och Lotro?
Warhammer förstördes totalt av Mythic, men har fortfarande en trogen spelarskara kvar.
Dem andra har jag ingen aning om, men om dem fortfarande lever så har dem ju inte direkt misslyckats.

Helt otroligt vad trångsynt du är

Att ett spel går över till f2p betyder inte att dem tjänar mindre pengar, många spel tjänar mycket mer pengar genom en f2p-metod där man istället använder sig av mikrotransaktioner. Kolla bara på Lotro.

Och jo, Warhammer blev förstört pga mythic och deras totala ignorans av hur spelet i verkligheten såg ut. Jag var där från början till slut och irritationen över hur saker ignorerades blev alldeles för stor för att fortsätta betala för det.

Sen är Warhammer Online inte alls f2p.
Det är deras spinoff, wrath of heroes, som är en f2p variant där man endast spelar i lag i arenor, inte det riktiga spelet alltså.

Mythic var väl de som tog hand om EU?
Warhammer Online, aha de har iaf Endless Trial likt Wow. Men deras spelarbas är väl ruggigt liten.

Och då Bioware/EA har lagt ~300milj på spelet så vill de nog ha minst 1miljoner spelare i minst 2 år för att tjäna tillbaka allt.

Ho ho ho!

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Denna diskussion spelar egentligen ingen som helst roll, då ingen vet hur det kommer bli.

Framtiden får helt enkelt utvisa hur det går. Jag har själv avaktiverat min subscription för att kunna vänta nån månad och se vad som händer.

Nån mer än jag som tycker att ladd-tiderna i spelet är horribelt långa? Tog tid idag och det tog mig dryga 6 minuter att ladda Voss...

Vart har jag sagt att spelet i grunden är dåligt? Men ja, ni är så inbitna i erat spel (likt BF3 fanboysen i BF3 trådarna) så fort något negativt kommer fram så blir det HÖRREDUDU NU JÄVLAR HÅLLER DU MUN! XD

Att köpa en motor som är långt ifrån färdig är inte särskilt smart. Speciellt när den presterar (i SWTOR) likt skit. Väldigt dålig prestanda på många highend datorer. Och har väldigt mkt buggar.

Men spelet känns långt ifrån klart.
Motorn är sjukt ostabil och lider av avsaknaden av optimeringar.

Vi får se nu i slutet av januari hur många som fortsätter spela efter sin gratismånad, kan säga direkt att det inte kommer vara särskilt många kvar.

Nån mer än jag som tycker att ladd-tiderna i spelet är horribelt långa? Tog tid idag och det tog mig dryga 6 minuter att ladda Voss...

Experimental Serum samt Smart Cells för Biochem crafting, vart får man tag på den?
Är det bara via Diplomacy eller?

Ifall det är medical supply så är det via diplomacy. Annars är det antagligen via bioanalysis