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Need Advice on Security Solution - Verisure, Sector Alarm etc.

Hej ! What are your views on a security solution ?

We currently live in an apartment on ground floor with easy access to the apartment from patio.

So, what is a good deal for Security solution? I'm currently talking to Verisure, Sector Alarm & Svenska Alarm. They have shared their offers, but from what I read here & on reddit (Sweden), I understand this whole "Security Services" companies are a big scam & they work at almost 80-90% margin levels! Even their sales teams are over aggressive if you ask me!

Irrespective, it's needed, as I do believe it deters & burglars might think twice before robbing your place. In terms of response time from security guard, given I live in Stockholm, hoping that should be quick in case of an actual burglary.

The offers are something like this -

Verisure 2000 SEK initial installation & then 350 Sek per month.
Sector Alarm - No upfront cost, 409 SEK per month.

Any help will be appreciated. As my wife is adamant that we need to get one given the increase in burglary cases & this "Security Solution" gives some sort of mental peace !

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Maybe not relevant here, but I need to ask this question. Please delete if not revelant.

What is a good deal for Security solution ? I'm currently talking to Verisure, Sector Alarm & Svenska Alarm. They have shared their offers, but from what I read here & on reddit (Sweden), I understand this whole "Security Services" companies are a big scam & they work at almost 80-90% margin levels ! Even their sales teams are over aggressive if you ask me !

Irrespective, it's needed, as I do believe it deters & burglars might think twice before robbing your place. In terms of response time from security guard, given I live in Stockholm, hoping that should be quick in case of an actual burglary.

Any help will be appreciated.

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Skrivet av last_grimm:

Maybe not relevant here, but I need to ask this question. Please delete if not revelant.

What is a good deal for Security solution ? I'm currently talking to Verisure, Sector Alarm & Svenska Alarm. They have shared their offers, but from what I read here & on reddit (Sweden), I understand this whole "Security Services" companies are a big scam & they work at almost 80-90% margin levels ! Even their sales teams are over aggressive if you ask me !

Irrespective, it's needed, as I do believe it deters & burglars might think twice before robbing your place. In terms of response time from security guard, given I live in Stockholm, hoping that should be quick in case of an actual burglary.

Any help will be appreciated.

If you live close to others just get an alarm that flashes and make high noise like a siren. Maybe a few ip cams, fake even!
Scares off alot of people.

Havin alarm company coming to check if you get an alarm for 500 a month or more (I got no idea what monthly cost there is) seems like overpaying for something I never heard actually made a difference.

Don't think anyone at my company (116 people) got one that is more than a local one

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Skrivet av last_grimm:

Maybe not relevant here, but I need to ask this question. Please delete if not revelant.

What is a good deal for Security solution ? I'm currently talking to Verisure, Sector Alarm & Svenska Alarm. They have shared their offers, but from what I read here & on reddit (Sweden), I understand this whole "Security Services" companies are a big scam & they work at almost 80-90% margin levels ! Even their sales teams are over aggressive if you ask me !

Irrespective, it's needed, as I do believe it deters & burglars might think twice before robbing your place. In terms of response time from security guard, given I live in Stockholm, hoping that should be quick in case of an actual burglary.

Any help will be appreciated.

This discussion might be better suited in a separate thread.

Regardless, I've also heard that it's easy to get taken for a ride when buying home security solutions. While it may deter some burglars, some of them are either able to disable the security system, or are fast enough that they manage to steal some of the most valuable stuff and leave before the security guards arrive.

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Disclaimer: I work in the business and is not fully objective.

One difference is if you own the alarm or not. With Verisure you will get ownership of the alarm after X years (check with the sales person) and you can continue to use the alarm with the mobile app without monthly cost (but there will be no service from alarm center personnel or any guards dispatched to your home in case of an event).

There is a quite recent review in Swedish here: https://pcforalla.idg.se/2.1054/1.637625/test-hemlarm

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Take a look at Level1techs video about home security, most of the systems used by these companies can be bought and be setup by yourself. However I guess it could get slighlty complicated but surely cheaper. Then there is a question how your insurance company would feel about it.

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Disclaimer: I work in the business and is not fully objective.

One difference is if you own the alarm or not. With Verisure you will get ownership of the alarm after X years (check with the sales person) and you can continue to use the alarm with the mobile app without monthly cost (but there will be no service from alarm center personnel or any guards dispatched to your home in case of an event).

There is a quite recent review in Swedish here: https://pcforalla.idg.se/2.1054/1.637625/test-hemlarm

Good point, let me check on this point with the sales representative. Thanks for sharing the link, it helps.

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Take a look at Level1techs video about home security, most of the systems used by these companies can be bought and be setup by yourself. However I guess it could get slighlty complicated but surely cheaper. Then there is a question how your insurance company would feel about it.

I was indeed looking into that direction. However one reason which makes these services attractive is the option of having security guards at your place in few minutes. But again, the burglars are quick & might be very well long gone by the time security arrives.

But again, we don't have any expensive items like jewelry etc., but a decent amount of electronics. Like Mac, my gaming PC, OLED etc.

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If you live close to others just get an alarm that flashes and make high noise like a siren. Maybe a few ip cams, fake even!
Scares off alot of people.

Havin alarm company coming to check if you get an alarm for 500 a month or more (I got no idea what monthly cost there is) seems like overpaying for something I never heard actually made a difference.

Don't think anyone at my company (116 people) got one that is more than a local one

Yes, it is a slightly busy area other apartments are there.

The price is roughly 400 SEK per month. Thing is, if we are away on vacation & then the alarm goes of, then its a problem. But you are right, 400 per month is 4800 per year. Not cheap.

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This discussion might be better suited in a separate thread.

Regardless, I've also heard that it's easy to get taken for a ride when buying home security solutions. While it may deter some burglars, some of them are either able to disable the security system, or are fast enough that they manage to steal some of the most valuable stuff and leave before the security guards arrive.

Yes, then there's the whole point that if you have a security system at home, then it gives an impression that you keep expensive stuff & hence you have security. In our case other than expensive electronics (Mac, gaming PC, OLED etc.), we don't have any major jewelry or other expensive items at home.

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Yes, then there's the whole point that if you have a security system at home, then it gives an impression that you keep expensive stuff & hence you have security. In our case other then expensive electronics (Mac, gaming PC, OLED etc.), we don't have any major jewelry or other expensive items at home.

Yeah, that's certainly possible.

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The cheapest way to get almost all benefits of an alarm system is to just buy and place the stickers in the windows. "Alarm with response"

If you really feel the need for an actual system you can put together one yourself pretty cheap too, but it is a bit fiddly. Then you can add stuff easily if needed, like cameras, more sensors, and you could add in other "smart home" stuff to the same system like monitoring moisture in the washing room, smart locks with logging (and maybe a snapshot of the one opening the door) etc.

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Created a separate thread -

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Yes, it is a slightly busy area other apartments are there.

The price is roughly 400 SEK per month. Thing is, if we are away on vacation & then the alarm goes of, then its a problem. But you are right, 400 per month is 4800 per year. Not cheap.

Yes, then there's the whole point that if you have a security system at home, then it gives an impression that you keep expensive stuff & hence you have security. In our case other than expensive electronics (Mac, gaming PC, OLED etc.), we don't have any major jewelry or other expensive items at home.

You'd still have option to have a connected alarm. Something that connects to google home or similar. Gives you possibility to get a live feed to the phone, alerts etc without any MRC.

I've looked into some different solutions and for me something I manage myself and that stores data locally is my cup of tea. I guess you could call me paranoid, but storing video streams of my house on the "cloud" was a bit of a stretch for me.

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